tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3311201101178073119.post1129058806436364502..comments2023-08-24T05:28:28.355-05:00Comments on Myself the only Kangaroo among the Beauty: Submitting Like a ManSandy Longhornhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04735445958970512617noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3311201101178073119.post-53919869215589072962010-12-13T07:19:38.424-06:002010-12-13T07:19:38.424-06:00Thanks for stopping by, Stephanie. Hope the link ...Thanks for stopping by, Stephanie. Hope the link helps!Sandy Longhornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04735445958970512617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3311201101178073119.post-85008702145442227452010-12-12T22:05:49.311-06:002010-12-12T22:05:49.311-06:00Excellent link! I'm reposting it. Whenever I g...Excellent link! I'm reposting it. Whenever I get a personal note like that, I absolutely freak out about how long I should wait and what I should do and on and on and on. Submit like a man. It's good advice.stephaniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12589630880762394716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3311201101178073119.post-67883620178474224322010-12-11T21:31:17.101-06:002010-12-11T21:31:17.101-06:00Oooh Amy, I love this tree. Lots of word play goi...Oooh Amy, I love this tree. Lots of word play going on for me. THANKS!Sandy Longhornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04735445958970512617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3311201101178073119.post-82967008816553424412010-12-11T19:40:23.952-06:002010-12-11T19:40:23.952-06:00I'm thinking now I should get in the habit of ...I'm thinking now I should get in the habit of "emitting" my work to editors. :) Look at this lovely "mittere" tree: there has to be a better prefix in there somewhere:<br />http://www.wordempire.com/examples/mittereTree.pdfAmyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04736955125611064179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3311201101178073119.post-48158204051577765322010-12-11T18:11:44.987-06:002010-12-11T18:11:44.987-06:00Jeannine, thanks for the view from both sides of t...Jeannine, thanks for the view from both sides of the desk. Yes, it still feels hasty to me, so I'm interested to find out if there is a change in outcome. You are right about editors moving on, esp. at journals housed in grad programs. Took me way too long to learn that lesson. :)Sandy Longhornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04735445958970512617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3311201101178073119.post-71930662820250450552010-12-11T17:25:25.440-06:002010-12-11T17:25:25.440-06:00You know, until Kelli brought it up, though I had ...You know, until Kelli brought it up, though I had worked as an editor at a bunch of lit mags, I had never really thought about the issue either, except to note that yup, guys tend to submit more frequently.<br /><br />I would wait a year or two after a nice note asking me to send again on a rejection, and often the person who had written the note had moved on by that point. So that was probably stupid. Now I am trying to respond in a matter of months, which still feels hasty to me, but is really just practical.Jeanninehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16419593830749483323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3311201101178073119.post-46697576536687509452010-12-11T16:49:53.598-06:002010-12-11T16:49:53.598-06:00Justin H., thanks for expanding on my post. Like ...Justin H., thanks for expanding on my post. Like you, I'd keep writing even if the poems didn't see the light of day, I hope anyway. The process of discovery through writing is truly invaluable. However, I've always written with the intention of interacting with a wider audience, so the writer-editor relationship has been with me on the whole journey.<br /><br />Justin E., that's so interesting. I wonder...has your relationship with submitting changed much since becoming an editor yourself?<br /><br />Molly, you're more than welcome. I want this blog to be a place where everyone can be real and I'm glad it's working that way!Sandy Longhornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04735445958970512617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3311201101178073119.post-4025698918045409202010-12-11T16:02:55.239-06:002010-12-11T16:02:55.239-06:00Well, Sandy, if it's any comfort, this post an...Well, Sandy, if it's any comfort, this post and your last one (about drafty drifting drafts) really encourage me as a Neophyte. If even seasoned writers have difficult drafting days from time to time, and some ambivalence about submissions, then I can see it more as part of the journey, rather than as something to, well, submit to (ok, sorry, just had to). Thanks for being real.Mollyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03597990526818589453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3311201101178073119.post-67525863929857864042010-12-11T15:59:10.762-06:002010-12-11T15:59:10.762-06:00I submit like a woman, only submitting once per re...I submit like a woman, only submitting once per reading period, and often not submitting again for years after, even when I get a good note.<br /><br />My worst case was/is with AQR. I received a hand-written note (in blue ink) from the editor, and not only did I wait years to send to them again, I lost the note. <br /><br />I think in some ways it's good that I lost the note. I know what it said, but it doesn't weigh me down.Justin Evanshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12161484350184865575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3311201101178073119.post-18383332401489015892010-12-11T14:24:06.000-06:002010-12-11T14:24:06.000-06:00You know, Sandy, the subtext of "submission&q...You know, Sandy, the subtext of "submission" never really ocurred to me that way before. Usually, by the time I send something out, I've had the experience of making and remaking that poem, and the process was its value to me. <br /><br />Obviously I care about publication or I wouldn't send out work. And it is nice when people like what you do. But I hardly feel like I'm submitting to an editor's opinion as if that is what might validate my experience with the poem or give it worth. Those are internal assessments I've already made. Any "validation" an editor offers through publication is gravy.<br /><br />Maybe I feel this way because I started writing poetry with no illusions about ever being able to publish it in the first place, and knowing I would write it anyway.Justin Hammhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14960584050841295189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3311201101178073119.post-28375839237822506732010-12-11T14:20:29.023-06:002010-12-11T14:20:29.023-06:00I don't know about the mfa, Nancy. I have one...I don't know about the mfa, Nancy. I have one and still struggle. You are right about the ongoing conversation. Even with most rejections, someone other than family/friends has read the poems. And this is the merry-go-round that leads to a broader readership. Woo Hoo.Sandy Longhornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04735445958970512617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3311201101178073119.post-43212976587117393402010-12-11T13:27:16.115-06:002010-12-11T13:27:16.115-06:00yes, the word "submission." am i giving ...yes, the word "submission." am i giving an editor too much authority over my work when i submit it to a magazine? perhaps. but i continue to submit work, because i really like getting published. getting published seems to mean that i'm officially participating in a conversation or conversations about writing. i sometimes wonder if i'd feel differently if i had an mfa. i'm a teacher; i have a degree and certification that says so. but a writer? <br />maybe what it really boils down to is this: getting published means someone other than my mother and my husband are reading my poems.Nancy Devinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10895934793253274506noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3311201101178073119.post-47132333761847535372010-12-11T13:24:19.770-06:002010-12-11T13:24:19.770-06:00Ah, interesting stories of the flip-side. Thanks....Ah, interesting stories of the flip-side. Thanks.<br /><br />Submit to the reality. Nice.Sandy Longhornhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04735445958970512617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3311201101178073119.post-25881840870210684602010-12-11T13:02:33.976-06:002010-12-11T13:02:33.976-06:00I learned a lot from Kelli's post, too.
Als...I learned a lot from Kelli's post, too. <br /><br />Also have been pondering the "submit" and "submission" thing. I know a couple of men who don't put their work out there by way of submitting to the judgments of others. One is a playwright who arranges the situation in advance and provides the play in time to be produced. (Lucky him, to be able to do so! But other playwright do submit their work to contests and theatres.)<br /><br />Another can't even conceive of the idea of submission. He'll say, "You do a good job of promoting your work," not understanding that you can't promote your work until you have submitted it. If you submit it and it gets published, then you have the task of promoting it. I can't help him with the process if he can't...submit to the reality. It's a dilemma.Kathleenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06559881249054540947noreply@blogger.com